Prime Minister Samak Sundaravej gave an interview to Aljazeera television on Feb 9, 2008. He insisted only one man died in the October 6, 1976.

Aljazeera tv : Your predecessor, Thaksin Shinawatra, was criticised for a pretty brutal campaign against Muslim fighters in southern Thailand. Many people who were innocent were caught up in that violence. Do you support his policies in southern Thailand?

Samak : Actually, he doesn't mention any policy. The wrong that he committed, somebody says that... ahh... he says that it... ahh... it's not quite so important mandate, and that's all. That is what he mentioned.

A : But if we refer to Tak Bai, the Tak Bai incident, when many young Muslim men were beaten and rounded up and their bodies were stacked into trucks, many of them suffocated and died...

S : Where?
A : At Tak Bai.
S : Tak Bai? Ohh... You have heard about that incident? Did you?
A : Of course, we've seen the footage.

S : Ahh. There's a group of them make a violence there in the south. Thirty-two of them. And they fled to live in the mosque. And then the military asked them to come out. They doesn't come out. So the military must get in. So the mosque is a clean place, that the dirty man, any kind of weapon, cannot get in. But they just going there, so they just killing from outside. So... 32 of them die. And then that is in the Krue Se. And in Tak Bai they just come to make a shouting. To make a shouting and then any kind of thing to bring six people out from jail. So the whole day, this is the time of the, they don't eat anything, they don't eat in the daytime. So, thousands of them just going there around the police station and something like that. So they end up with the... they say that, ok, we'll let them have the preparation to bring them back, the six people, but they don't, they, in the evening time, so they make a roundup (cough) for all those people and put in the truck.

A : Many of the families would suggest that there were very innocent people rounded up there amongst the...

S : Aww, the innocent people. When that type of movement, around that thing, is innocent or not, I have no idea, but those people going fled in the truck, if they strong enough when they standing in the truck, it's ok. But they spent the whole day, doesn't eat, doesn't drink water, doesn't even swallow any kind of thing, because in the month of that thing, so, they just fall on each other. And 78 die, from so many truck, loading, running by... [?] So that's it. It's a tragedy. It happened. Nobody intend to kill them. They die because of their physical. But they has been caught just to get into the barrack. So, so what's wrong with that? What's wrong with that? What is the execution of that? What is it?

A : What is wrong with innocent people dying?

S : What is the incident that had happened? Everybody in the country know what had happened. And seventy... they fall down on each other. And then 78 died.

A : So you're saying they died because they fell on top of each other?
S : Yes. Nobody kill them. Everybody knows it was...
A : Not because they were packed into trucks without enough air?
S : When people get in the truck, in the good shape, and running, actually nobody think they will be like that, but if they people happen not to eat, not to drink, not to swallow, and then somebody fall down the other on the top... So 78 died, out of 1300.

A : Ok. I'd like to go back to 1976 and the Thammasat University protests, where hundreds of students were beaten, shot, lynched and burned. Historians...

S : Yeah, where did you get that report?
A : Historians suggest that you on your radio programme urged mobs of people to turn out and attack the students...
S : How old are you at that time?

(Pause)

S : How old are you?
A : Let me refer to...
S : Do you born yet?
A : Do you deny that...

S : I haven't got any concern. They write some dirty history to me. I brought the case to the court, so many of them, all time to time. The three incident of that time, only one guy died in Sanam Luang, because somebody beat them and burn them by the... by the... by the... by the wire, uh, by the... by the... by the tire. And this only one. Three thousand student is in the Thammasat University. So they were caught there, and then the military would like to bring them out. So they take the shirt, and like this, like that, uh, like the, bring the shirt and put it on [gesturing to tie hands behind back with opened shirt]. Three thousand lying on the ground of Thammasat University football field. So that they bring all the truck to bring them, put in the shirt and put them on, and then going to let them out to the barrack. Then the only way not to let the people being harmed. Three thousand of them. And then they going out there and so many afraid they fled into the jungle, so many go back home. And then, nobody die in Thammasat University. And the student try to go to the barrack... [?] just to bring the... Nobody die, not...

A : Well with all due respect, historians refer to it as one of the worst atrocities in Thailand's history.
S : That is a dirty history. Somebody did it. Somebody write something dirty like that.
A : Well with all due respect, I've actually watched the footage...
S : What the footage?
A : Of that incident...
S : The killing?
A : Yes, I have seen...
S : It's impossible.
A : I have seen people being beaten...
S : Yes, true, in Sanam Luang, yes.
A : ...their limp bodies on the ground...
S : Yes, that's true, that is one guy.
A : You're saying one...
S : Yes.
A : Human rights groups would suggest it was dozens of students, possibly in the hundreds.

S : For me, eh, for me, eh, if I am dirty, I am concerned with many thing, I cannot come this far. This dirty history always come. I just have a, a lady like you come from far away, asking this question. Even the Thai, they dare not ask this question to me. If I am a dirty man like that, I cannot get, when I run as the governor of Bangkok, somebody bring this case again. "Oh, a murderer with the blood in the hand cannot run as a governor." I bring the case to the court. So the judge says that, "Khun Samak, we are going to run, eh? Please forgive them, that misunderstanding, just forgive them and withdraw the case and then a good thing to you." So I just think, I agree with the court, with the judge, so I withdraw the case. And when I ran, eh, I got over million vote in Bangkok. Never before. The highest anyone get is 700,000. I got over one million. And then, how about a man, a dirty man like that being elected? The ward is two million something. I got over one million, and the rest, somebody got one hundred, uh, five hundred thousand. And, is not a proof that the people of Bangkok, educated people, four million voters, they come to vote with two million, one million, over a million voted for me, and the rest, chose a small fraction for others.

A : Alright, you are facing corruption charges over your term as Bangkok governor...

S : And then the corruption charge, can they do anything to me yet? So it's a dirty trick that they... [?] I sue the chairman of the two court. So until now the case run for two years. Why two years cannot bring me to the court yet? Not the, the case is not to the court yet. Any case, bring, three years ago, with the putting a garbage, anything. The cost may be 9000 but that last for ten years. But it finish for three years until now. It's nothing wrong with it, but they want to destroy me. Somebody, I call it a dirty hand, a black hand nobody sees, an invisible hand, want to destroy me. Now, you must stay long enough. Even for anywhere in the world, can you, can see that, must I be in jail with this case or not? It's a dirty trick to Samak to put it in. If a man like I says that, "You, this reporter, you are lousy girl, you kill someone, you are [?]", will you be like that? No. No.

A : Alright, Mr. Prime Minister, thank you for speaking...
S : No, do believe me. Frankly speaking, you must [?] like that. Someone put a dirty [?] on someone. If I'm a dirty man like that, if I'm corruption, why I was elected?

A : Alright, we have to leave it there...
S : Why this party get 233 seats? Why? Why the one who is very clean get 165? Why? Just ask me the question... just answer the question to me.

A : Alright Mr. Prime Minister, we have to leave it there. Thank you for talking to 101 East.

S : Thank you for coming, but please, uh, do some homework. Don't get some information and ask the question. If I am not real, uh, I cannot come this far. Thank you for coming. That's enough.
A : Thank you.

New PM erupts in Parliament after opposition questions him about involvement in October 6 massacre. Prime Minister Samak Sundaravej swore in Parliament yesterday that if he was involved in the 1976 fatal crackdown on protesters at Thammasat University, he would be damned.

A war of words was sparked between Samak and the opposition during the government's declaration in the House of its policy agenda.

Samak blew his top after opposition leader Abhisit Vejjajiva demanded that Samak not allow a repeat of what happened to the media after the October 6, 1976 incident, when Samak assumed the interior minister's post and a number of newspapers were shut down.

"We are obviously witnessing media intimidation in the removal of Chirmsak Pinthong's radio programme for criticising Samak about his [CNN] interview over the incident," Abhisit said.

Democrat Party chief adviser Chuan Leekpai yesterday attacked Samak - a former Democrat Party member - for lacking gratitude by jumping ship from the Democrats when the party was at its lowest ebb.

Chuan said the PM and several Cabinet members began their political careers with the Democrat Party. "I admire people who appreciate the party and its merits and I condemn people who do not have any gratitude and talk badly about the party."

Chuan said media faced subtle interference via business mechanisms. "The media is intimidated in that, if they present news which shows opposition to the government, their business will not survive," he said.

Samak complained that his political opponents always used his role in the October 1976 incident to discredit him in every election campaign he has fought. He said his opponents always accused him of being a murderer with blood-stained hands.

"During the gubernatorial election race, I was verbally bullied that I was a murderer. But I won over a million votes and my opponent got only 500,000 votes. Has there been anyone in Thailand winning over one million votes [in the poll for Bangkok governor]? There is only Samak," he said.

He said he told CNN that during the clampdown on students he was at Sanam Luang and he saw one person hit and burnt by a rubber bullet.

"Every foreigner is interested in asking this question. A female reporter from Al Jazeera, who was beautiful and not even 30, asked me that question, so I asked her back 'how old are you?' and 'who told you to ask me?' " he said.

Samak gave an interview to CNN earlier this month in which he claimed only one person died in the notorious massacre, in which more than 40 were allegedly killed. The PM said he was not involved in the brutal crackdown on the students.

October 6 activists have cried foul over Samak's statement, accusing him of distorting the facts. They say the PM played a crucial role by inciting hatred between leftists and conservatives. Samak was the host of an Army radio show and accused the students of being communists who aimed to destroy the country's revered institutions.

Source: The Nation

Historians will hold a discussion in Thai and English to counter what they call Prime Minister Samak Sundaravej's distortion of the facts over the October 6, 1976 student massacre.

Akkharaphong Khamkhun, a lecturer in Southeast Asian Studies at Thammasat Univer-sity, said a panel discussion on "From October 14th, to the 6th, and Bloody May: The Unlearned Lessons of Our History" will be held tomorrow afternoon from 1pm at Thammasat University's Tha Phrachan Campus.

The panel is organised not only to counter the PM's distortion of the facts of the October 6, 1976 student massacre which took place at the campus but also to encourage Thai society to learn more about the incident, he said.

"It's not only about Samak's distortion, but we see that the incident has been unlearned history in Thai society for over three decades," Akkharaphong said.

Samak recently gave an interview to CNN, stating he was not involved in the massacre as accused and only one unlucky student activist was killed in the incident.

According to an official report, there were 46 deaths.

Akkharaphong said he had sent an email to the prime minister inviting him to listen to the historians on the panel.

Historian Thanet Aphornsuvan, dean of the Faculty of Liberal Arts, will give a talk on "The Painful History and the Unlearned Lesson".

The panel will be held in Thai with an English interpretation in order to counter the prime minister's distortion during his interview with the foreign media, Akkharaphong said.

Former student activists from the 1970s yesterday issued an open letter to condemn Prime Minister Samak.

The former student activists gathered at the October 14 Memorial for a symposium titled "Facts of October 6, 1976" organised by the October 6 Heroes' Relatives Committee and Network to Protect the Spirit of the October Activists.

Among former activists of the 1970s who took part in the symposium were historian Suthachai Yimprasert, a lecturer at Chulalongkorn University, Wasan Sitthiket, leader of the Artists Party, Pichian Amnartvoraprasert, a member of the Matchima Tipataya Party, and Veera Somkwamkid, secretary-general of the Anti-Corruption Network.

The activists said in their open letter although it was not the anniversary of the uprising, they had gathered to show up Samak.

The letter said it was perfectly clear that many students were killed in the compound of Thammasat University on that day.

It reminded Samak that when he was interior minister at that time, he told foreign reporters that 48 students were killed.

"So why did Samak, who is now the prime minister, give different information to the CNN reporter in a way that makes it seem he regards the incident as a small political accident.

"Isn't this a lie by the prime minister?" the open letter said.

"Samak as of now cannot play the role of an outspoken politician who can make irresponsible statements. We do not believe that Samak has received limited information regarding the incident and we don't believe that Samak has already forgot what happened," the letter said.

"The only thing that can heal us is to tell the truth to society and correct history by accepting the status and cruel truth of the October 6, 1976 incident."

Thai historian Thongchai Winichakul of the University of Wisconsin, Madison, wrote an article condemning Samak for distorting the facts and urging former student activists and others to go beyond the political agenda in criticising Samak.

"Going beyond Samak is the way to make the criticism of him worthwhile for the October 6 cause and to distinguish our criticism of Samak from those opportunists who attack him for the benefit of the anti-Thaksin political camp which includes the real criminals of October 6," he wrote.

Thongchai was among student leaders who were arrested and detained for two years.

Source: The Nation